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Honda may leave Swindon 3 years 3 months ago #335692

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Honda's state of  the art manufacturing plant at Swindon is in danger of being closed because of a few NIMBYs.
Honda want to build two largish wind turbine generators to help reduce there power costs and to be "greener".
The NIMBYs are objecting and Swindon Council appears to be dithering.
We've already lost a big contract for Bombardier to Germany.
 Lets hope a few NIMBYs don't cost the UK the Honda plant!!  At least 3000 jobs would be lost plus all the ancillary support jobs which must run into thousands!.
 
Is it the tail wagging the dog again? Grrrr

 
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Honda may leave Swindon 3 years 3 months ago #335693

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That is just typical but is hardly shocking these days we are selling ourselves and the economy down the river the same people that complain about the national dept and there being no jobs or skills in the UK are the same ones that allow companies from the EU and further afield to bid for contracts that should never have been sourced outwith our own countries, when it comes to government or national companies contracting out they should only be allowed to source within our own countries, it is absolute disgrace but surprising, sadly not anymore..did they learn nothing with the iceland bank fiasco..why on earth..lets not even go there
Can this country do nothing for itself anymore from ships to cars, food and clothes, we supply pretty much nothing to our own trade markets anymore. its not only sad but pathetic and shameful that nearly all of our heavy industries are sourced and imported from abroad fed up,lollie
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Honda may leave Swindon 3 years 3 months ago #335694

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I think what Dustydog was trying to get at was exactly the opposite. He can't understand why things are being made difficult for the industry to be competitive. I'm sure that Honda aren't only producing cars for the UK market in Swindon so it would make sense to support the company in furthering their exports. After all, because the UK cannot be self-sufficient, if only for lack of natural resources, export trade is the only thing that keeps the economy healthy.
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Honda may leave Swindon 3 years 3 months ago #335695

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Lutz wrote:
I think what Dustydog was trying to get at was exactly the opposite. He can't understand why things are being made difficult for the industry to be competitive. I'm sure that Honda aren't only producing cars for the UK market in Swindon so it would make sense to support the company in furthering their exports. After all, because the UK cannot be self-sufficient, if only for lack of natural resources, export trade is the only thing that keeps the economy healthy.
ugal, Ireland spring to mind
I think that's the point Lutz that a few selfish people may well spoil a thriving Industry and force it to look elsewhere, Greece, Port ugal, Ireland spring to mind

 
Historically we had NIMBYs objecting to the Railways and their Victorian Viaducts. Many of these structures are now Listed structures to be preserved for ever. And they enhance the landscape. Maybe wind turbines will enjoy that pleasure in years to come.
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Honda may leave Swindon 3 years 3 months ago #335696

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Get your facts straight Dustydog, you have no idea what you're talking about.  Honda want 3 x 120 metre turbines built on their plant.  The nearest home will be only 320 metres away.  This is not about nimbyism, it's about the irresponsible siting of these giant industrial structures.  This scaremongering about Honda moving away is ridiculous - they have just announced they are building the new CRV at their plant, that doesn't sound like they are going anywhere soon.  Nobody is against Honda, but if they decide to go it will certainly not be because of wind turbines.
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Honda may leave Swindon 3 years 3 months ago #335697

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I can't see what's irresponsible about erecting wind turbines. They're a lot less likely to do anyone any harm than a power station belching forth who knows what into the atmosphere.
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Honda may leave Swindon 3 years 3 months ago #335698

Dustydog wrote:
Historically we had NIMBYs objecting to the Railways and their Victorian Viaducts. Many of these structures are now Listed structures to be preserved for ever. And they enhance the landscape. Maybe wind turbines will enjoy that pleasure in years to come.
 
If only the same could be said for road transport and the great swathes motorways cut out of the countryside to make way for them. Take Shap as an example where the west coast mainline blended into the landscape and how it looks now with the physical scarring of the M6 motorway. When motorways, or any other roads are built for that matter, the only objectors are those with homes in its path yet when an high speed railway is proposed, which only takes up a third of the area needed by a motorway, there is hell to play led by the powerful road haulage lobby.

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What every one seems to forget is that these wind turbines which are a blight on the countryside in comparison generate very little electric into the national grid.  I wonder how much in costs Honda would save by having these eyesores built/  Over a 10 year period probably a big fat ZERO!  It will probably take 50 or more years to break even on the costs.  Getting all the building materials to the site probably does more environmental damage than the wind turbioen saves at the end of the day.  We can blame these monstrousities on the government and tree huggers as all Honda want to do is say "look how green we are!" and forget about the environmental impact they have building cars especially electric cars!
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One single wind turbine of that size will produce around 7.5 MW of power, so all three will most likely cover more than the needs of the factory. I have no way of judging the comparative cost of erecting the turbines with that of building a conventional power station so I can't comment on your statement. Whether they are eyesores is a matter of personal preference, but personally I find them less objectionable than a power station.
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Get your facts straight Dustydog, you have no idea what you're talking about.  Honda want 3 x 120 metre turbines built on their plant.  The nearest home will be only 320 metres away.  This is not about nimbyism, it's about the irresponsible siting of these giant industrial structures.  This scaremongering about Honda moving away is ridiculous - they have just announced they are building the new CRV at their plant, that doesn't sound like they are going anywhere soon.  Nobody is against Honda, but if they decide to go it will certainly not be because of wind turbines.
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Most people who complain about Wind Turbines are the ones that live near by ie South Marston who are worried about the effect on the housing market and their property. I dont see a problem with them.
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