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new driving standards 8 years 5 months ago #46992

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Following the discussions we've been having recently regarding speeding, observation, etc I would like to put forward a suggestion; that the driving test as we know it should be scrapped. Or rather, it should be the first stage of testing, carried out off public roads, which would allow a prospective driver to gain a provisional license to begin learning to drive on the road. What we know as at present as an advanced driving test should be regarded as the minimum requirement to drive without supervision, and this test should be repeated every 5years maximum. I believe this would radically reduce the number of accidents since drivers whose observation skills were questionable would fail to gain a license and those left on the roads would have the neccessary training to make the best of their observations. As I have said before on this forum, I believe all accidents are caused by one of two things. Either poor observation or bad judgement, and the standard driving test does not require much of an education in either.

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new driving standards 8 years 5 months ago #46993

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I think a refresher every 5 yrs is a good idea, unfortunately it would not get much backing if it was a retest.



The current test stations in the UK cannot handle the amount of people who want to pass now, getting everyone to retest every 5 yrs would break the system
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new driving standards 8 years 5 months ago #46994

I think the answer would be more police on the roads again and more severe financial penalties for an offence with lesser points for a ban. In the paper today was an article about a man who had 31 points on his licence but was not banned for compassionate reasons. This in my opinion is taking the mickey out of the judicial system and the police must be really gutted - what point is there charging a person if he/she will get away with it in court with a slapped wrist.

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new driving standards 8 years 5 months ago #46995

Try not paying your Council Tax, especially if you are a pensioner, and watch the judicial system work flat out.
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new driving standards 8 years 5 months ago #46996

Sort the roads out and inmprove traffic flow, sort out road repairs schedules to minimise hold ups.

Keep Mr Plod away from the roads and let them deal with real crime.

License idea is fine but it will never happen, but the police should be pulling for bad driving practice in general not some guy doinf 75 on the M'WAy.



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new driving standards 8 years 5 months ago #46997

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I all for make the road more safer but I can not see how your thing for every one to take there test every five years. Just think of the work load it would make.



I think we need to get more polices car back on the road to start catch the bad diver and other thing that go on.



Sorry Craig I now it sound if I gone off the thread a bit but the thing is and till we get the way the road are policies now days sorted out I can not see thing get better. Because a lot of bad thing go unseen now days with the lack of the policing on the roads



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new driving standards 8 years 5 months ago #46998

Craig



I all for make the road more safer but I can not see how your thing for every one to take there test every five years. Just think of the work load it would make.



I think we need to get more polices car back on the road to start catch the bad diver and other thing that go on.



Sorry Craig I now it sound if I gone off the thread a bit but the thing is and till we get the way the road are policies now days sorted out I can not see thing get better. Because a lot of bad thing go unseen now days with the lack of the policing on the roads



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new driving standards 8 years 5 months ago #46999

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The reason retesting would work is because every driver would need to use the skills and methods being taught everytime they drove, otherwise they would possibly fail the test and be taken off the road. Putting more police out there may work but would you rather have millions of dodgy drivers on the road and hope they get caught, or not have the dodgy drivers on the road in the first place? the reason our roads are such a dangerous place is because it's so easy to get a license.

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new driving standards 8 years 5 months ago #47000

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I don't know if it is easy to get a licence. But it is easy to ignore what you have learnt and just drive how you want once you have passed your test.



I would like to see insurance companies offer a good discount for people who go on to do advanced driving / Riding. Some say they do but in the real world this is not much at all.



On the subject of bike licences, its about time they removed the direct access licence as with the bigger bikes experience is far more important than it is in a car or a smaller / slower bike. (yes, I did do direct access myself).



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new driving standards 8 years 5 months ago #47001

Advanced driving qualifications have never saved me a penny on insurance, can always get a better deal than the companies that offer a discount.

I have observed many a learner motor cyclist under instruction, as an advanced level rider and former instructor I am shocked by some of whatI've seen being shown to these riders.

I would advise any rider to go and do an advanced Defensive or IAM course before you get carried away after the test.

A little word in the ear of some drivers from the boys in Blue and a little ticket saying they had to attend a refresher course withing 12 weeks and present the pass at the local nick and maybe watch and explanation video might help!

As for more Police on the roads, its a joke.

I've travelled over 4 thousand miles on holday in Europe over 3+ weeks and seen less Police than in a morning on the roads around Berks and Surrey and witnessed far better driving and less troubles.

If you want to see things change on the roads here, you need a few changes in the way this country is.

You need more roads and a change in people attitudes and behaviour in general. More effort in keeping traffic flowing than keep stopping and trying to control it causing more stress for drivers.

In europe, Ive seen school kids approached by police and stop dead in their tracks. Not run or mouth off.

Lack of disciplin from childhood through to drunken booze fueled binge drinking and the drunken/ drug fuelled / obnoxious behaviour seen on our streets needs to be changed if you want to see a change in road behaviour.

Respect has to be a big factor in our driving standards, if our British society had respect for the Law and other people in general you would see a change on the roads.

A 24/7 culture with people scared to take a full lunch break and workers from all sectors striving to meet targets just leads to more chaos in our road use!

A friend had a traffic calming initiative petition around where he lived. A group of locals he knew were concerned about people using the areas roads as a "rat run", he asked some of them and others in a dabate at the local pub where they all worked and the route they took. Most took short cut("rat runs") within a mile or two from home.

Looking at others and then justify what you are doing on the roads and show others a little more respect on and off the roads. Transference of attitudes in life to the actions seen on the road is clearly obvious.

A few more PC Plods in jam sandwich's isn't going to sort the roads, and paying said PC a bonus to nick people does not help generate the respect for many fine Police Officers in therir Patrol cars or other rolls.
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