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What’s happened to this forum? 4 months 2 weeks ago #446569

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Hi

Why are people on this forum often being blasted for asking a question?

Quite often the reply to a simple question is more like a reprimand than helpful friendly advice from a fellow caravaner.

I know we all can have an off-day or we see a posting that refers to our pet hate and reply without enough consideration for how it reads. To be honest I may have done so in the past. Poor composition can read completely different to the intended meaning.

My own rule is to imagine you are queuing up to fill the aqua roll on a campsite and someone asks a question. I’m sure most people would reply in a friendly helpful way and not reply in the way some do on this forum.

Have a great 2018
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What’s happened to this forum? 4 months 2 weeks ago #446572

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Please be assured that this forum is monitored to hopefully avoid the appearance of confrontational or antagonistic comments which can lead to ill feeling and online arguments.
I fully understand that if a person is trying to share information the prose can seem a little bit dry or to lack warmth to others, but it's very difficult to convey conversational nuances through the medium of text.
I'm sitting here typing this reply, but it's impossible for those reading it to know whether I'm smiling or frowning, happy or not happy.
On the rare occasions when things become a bit heated we step in with a word of 'advice' or we simply remove comments from the message boards that go beyond what we consider to be acceptable.
I know that now and then a seemingly simple question is asked and the replies meander off topic with the finer points being debated, but I don't see any malice in honest discussion and I'd venture to suggest that Practical Caravan forumites are very friendly and helpful. :)
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What’s happened to this forum? 4 months 2 weeks ago #446576

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Exactly !
Well said Parksy , what's to say you've had a bad day at work you come in read a post and just put a snappy reply on and then all kicks off !
just bite your tongue . :)
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What’s happened to this forum? 4 months 2 weeks ago #446578

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I'm sorry GD485 but I don't recognise your description of this forum, never had anything but 'sensible' advice when asked for it. (Mind you thick skin might come into it?) ;) ;)
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What’s happened to this forum? 4 months 2 weeks ago #446579

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Hello GD485

Anybody who posts a question or comment on PCF needs to understand that it becomes a public comment. And there is no restriction on which members may respond to any thread, so there are likely to be a number of different points of view. Without knowing exactly which posts and writers you have problems with, its difficult to make a focused comment.

Having been employed by a business where some of its products were fitted in caravans and a life long interest in camping and caravans (Amongst other things), I like some other contributors do have some highly relevant technical experience and perhaps more importantly see a possible mistake or unsafe practice about to happen. Like it or not there are regulations that do apply to caravans, and not just from safety perspective but also from a professional liability point of view we sometimes do have to be quite blunt. We should all remember that PCF is a forum that can be read by anyone, and it is wrong to believe that the anonymity of out avatars allows use to behave unreasonably or to cause any distress to other users. we should not bully. Which is why I only answer in the way I would if were speaking face to face, but even I have failed to hold my cool on some occasions.

At other times we have seen some questions asked, where it is clear the asker has just not bothered to look for themselves, and whilst we generally don't mind discussing and offering some advice, on some occasions the matter can become far too tedious especially when the point may have been answered already in different ways by different contributors, yet the questioner just continues to ask without 'listening to the answers'

With a few notable exceptions, the anonymity of the avatar system means that in reality I have no knowledge of what experience or qualifications any other member has, and it of course works the other way as too, so for practical reasons I will often provide background reasons for the basis of advice I offer, so that the reader can hopefully see the logic of the advice, and can do more research them selves to verify the advice.

For myself, I always try to ignore the personality and focus on factual information. I know there are a few forum members who dislike my approach and will go out of their way to contradict points or advice I offer. But I try to answer with a wider readership in mind.

We have to accept there may be an array of opinions on a particular point, and whilst a few may clearly be incorrect, there can often be more than one correct or workable solution. Thank heaven's for diversity of teh Human Race.
Unless I use quotes, All advice and opinions given are my own and are given in good faith. Never act on anything you read on a forum unless you can validate and verify its source and content.
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What’s happened to this forum? 4 months 2 weeks ago #446580

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GD485 wrote:
Hi

Why are people on this forum often being blasted for asking a question?

Quite often the reply to a simple question is more like a reprimand than helpful friendly advice from a fellow caravaner.

I know we all can have an off-day or we see a posting that refers to our pet hate and reply without enough consideration for how it reads. To be honest I may have done so in the past. Poor composition can read completely different to the intended meaning.

My own rule is to imagine you are queuing up to fill the aqua roll on a campsite and someone asks a question. I’m sure most people would reply in a friendly helpful way and not reply in the way some do on this forum.

Have a great 2018

I quite agree.
Similar to you, I have found that on occasion, a fairly simple question / query / observation is met by sarcasm and "a should know better" response accompanied by screeds of irrelevant chapter and verse..
We all have to start somewhere, and as has been pointed out, a posting can sometimes be interpreted in the wrong way.
I used to look forward to postings on here, but have joined another forum which has a stricter code of practice.
Shame its come to that really.
Anyway, Happy New Year to everyone!.
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What’s happened to this forum? 4 months 2 weeks ago #446582

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I don't use this forum much nowadays but it appears to be no different to how its always been.
Certainly don't see it as the OP does.
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What’s happened to this forum? 4 months 2 weeks ago #446611

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while Parksy put it better than I ever could. one must remember that a forum is comprised of members of the general public. and like all establishments that get public input. the responses can vary greatly just the same as any discussion will have different points of view.
some members will be new some very old. and it is not surprising that some new members [the ones who generally ask the most questions] find it hard to understand the response of some older members to questions that although may seem simple are in fact quite complicated.
or asking a question that has been asked and answered a hundred time before without taking the trouble to check if the answer is there on the boards already, yet seem to expect full detailed explanations every time the same questions are asked.
of course that is not the only reason for the odd sarcastic comment as some threads have been the scene of heated exchanges and long explanations going through many pages. many times before and the unwitting member just happens to ask one of these questions.
it is hardly surprising then that the answers one sometimes get is not what one is expecting.
or as my old man used to say "well lad if you dont like the answer you perhaps shouldn't have asked"
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What’s happened to this forum? 4 months 2 weeks ago #446618

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I'm another that doesn't recognise the description of this forum in the OP, so I guess I must be of the thick-skinned camp too, although my wife would probably say otherwise. :blush:
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What’s happened to this forum? 4 months 2 weeks ago #446620

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And another here that doesn't recognise the description of this forum as described by the OP.

I have seen some curt replies and some not so helpful comments, but on the whole I find the vast majority of replies are helpful and made with good intent.
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