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Practical Caravan Car Reviews 4 weeks 1 day ago #468804

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Forgive me for asking but what is IAM & ROSPA ?

Institute of Advanced Motoring and Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents. I did the ROSPA course when driving Artics. Wasnt really much about it, and I certainly didnt learn anything new. The firm had recently had a number of accidents, one in which two people were sadly killed. I wasnt involved, but the insurance company insisted all drivers did the course.

The bulk of the course was about reading the road ahead, which in all honestly, any moderately proficient artic man does anyway.

So its similar to CPC courses that we do now where we have to have 35 hours off courses in over 5 years . Cheers .
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Practical Caravan Car Reviews 4 weeks 17 hours ago #468805

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Craigyoung wrote:
Forgive me for asking but what is IAM & ROSPA ?
Thingy wrote:
Institute of Advanced Motoring and Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents. I did the ROSPA course when driving Artics. Wasnt really much about it, and I certainly didnt learn anything new. The firm had recently had a number of accidents, one in which two people were sadly killed. I wasnt involved, but the insurance company insisted all drivers did the course.

The bulk of the course was about reading the road ahead, which in all honestly, any moderately proficient artic man does anyway.
Craigyoung wrote:
So its similar to CPC courses that we do now where we have to have 35 hours off courses in over 5 years . Cheers .

I presume the CPC you refer to is Certificate of Professional Competence, s that correct?
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Practical Caravan Car Reviews 4 weeks 17 hours ago #468806

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In my view, it is not how much Motty is qualified but how experienced he is, which is very!
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Practical Caravan Car Reviews 4 weeks 17 hours ago #468807

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Be careful with "experience"... is it 25 yrs experience or 1 yr experience 25 times over....
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Practical Caravan Car Reviews 3 weeks 6 days ago #468847

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ProfJohnL wrote:
Craigyoung wrote:
Forgive me for asking but what is IAM & ROSPA ?
Thingy wrote:
Institute of Advanced Motoring and Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents. I did the ROSPA course when driving Artics. Wasnt really much about it, and I certainly didnt learn anything new. The firm had recently had a number of accidents, one in which two people were sadly killed. I wasnt involved, but the insurance company insisted all drivers did the course.

The bulk of the course was about reading the road ahead, which in all honestly, any moderately proficient artic man does anyway.
Craigyoung wrote:
So its similar to CPC courses that we do now where we have to have 35 hours off courses in over 5 years . Cheers .

I presume the CPC you refer to is Certificate of Professional Competence, s that correct?

Yes prof .
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Practical Caravan Car Reviews 4 days 12 hours ago #469806

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I have returned from two weeks' caravanning in France - lovely and thankfully snake-free - ready to re-ignite this issue ...

Dusty - no offence taken at all but you raise an interesting point regarding when a driver becomes 'qualified'.

I will admit here and now that I possess none of the driver categories / licences referenced. All of my towing experience is self-taught, initially by playing with toy cars and trailers as a child - hey, don't knock it, it really does help to teach you how to reverse - observing other people's experience with horse trailers in my early teens and subsequently gained from my own experience with a small camping trailer and eventually my current caravan. So it's fine by me if you all dismiss my experience of the Hyundai as irrelevant, without substance and based on the opinion of someone ill-qualified to offer it.

However - what if the same thing had happened to Motty during his road test? If be cannot honestly report his experience, and offer his opinion based on it without facing criticism then he is quite simply being restricted from doing the job we all want him to do.

Regarding the driver categories listed: I'm sorry but I can't see how having a PCV licence is of any relevance to towing at all. I can see that having an HGV licence might, but the trailer of an articulated lorry differs from a caravan in almost every possible way. Police drivers are clearly more experienced at driving cars solo in extreme conditions, but how often do they tow? I suspect the answer is 'rarely, if ever'. And IAM and ROSPA courses obviously promote driver safety, but we aren't looking for journalists to be safe. Their tests such as the 'sudden lane change' are as close as they can get to those moments where we might have to take sudden evasive or corrective action as a result of either our own, or someone else's human error.

Final thought: I've just read this year's Tow Car awards. No spoilers, but this time I agree absolutely with the comments made on the winning vehicle, based on personal experience with an identical car. :)
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