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Air awnings. 2 weeks 4 days ago #473760

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Hi all.

Just wondering what people’s take are on air awnings. I can see the massive advantage of weight but are they just as strong or should I say strong enough. I’ve seen some Kampa ones that look excellent and will be in the market for a new awning next year.

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Air awnings. 2 weeks 4 days ago #473764

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Oh Dazzzzbo, you are opening a can of worms. There are now more arguments about whether poled Is better than air, than when actually putting the beast up. Dan Trudgian recent video and the generated comments being a case in point.
I can only say that I have had nothing but good experiences of my Kampa Rally Air which we have had for 7 years and is well used. It has withstood really strong winds and never leaked. Similarly good but less tested is our Vango Rapide Air.
The disadvantage with air awnings is that they are generally hard to pull through the awning channel as you are pulling the weight of the air beams as well as the canvas.
Some folks report all sorts of issues with leaking Air beams and leaking canvas. I can only say, it has not been a problem for us.
Not sure that they are necessarily quicker to put up than a poled awning ( after you are well practised with the poles) but imho they are more straightforward.
We do have a full poled Walker awning which we use sometimes and is great, but the Kampa is our go to awning most of the time.
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Air awnings. 2 weeks 3 days ago #473780

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I still prefer a poled awning. One reason being that I can spread the weight of awning and poles around more flexibly.
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Air awnings. 2 weeks 3 days ago #473783

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Short & sweet , but poled awning for me to !
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Air awnings. 2 weeks 3 days ago #473784

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We have had a Vango air which is easy to put up. Slightly more weight to pull through the channel but heavy to carry as canvas and 'poles' are all together.
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Air awnings. 2 weeks 3 days ago #473792

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I agree with all that has been said, over the years we have had about five full sized poled awnings, three porch poled an then we purchased a Kampa 400 Ace with poles. We found that this model pooled water on the roof so returned it and are now on a Ace Air 400. It is heavy pulling the awning through the channel but a bit of furniture polish on a rag, pulled through certainly helps.
We remove the sides which takes some weight off, but once through it takes the same amount of time to peg it down.
We had a pole explode whilst on a CL, I contacted Kampa and they delivered a replacement to the CL the next day.
All in we are pleased and while I can still pull it through the channel we will continue, the hardest part is getting it out the car and placing it near the caravan. Hope this helps.
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Air awnings. 2 weeks 3 days ago #473794

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Dazzzzbo wrote:
Hi all.

Just wondering what people’s take are on air awnings. I can see the massive advantage of weight but are they just as strong or should I say strong enough. I’ve seen some Kampa ones that look excellent and will be in the market for a new awning next year.

Cheers

I am not understanding the claim of massive weight saving?

If a light duty poled awning or a light duty air awning are compared they will be way lighter than a heavy duty canvass air or poled awning, which is little surprise.
There are some very light flexi glass fibre rod poled awnings out there and there are some very heavy steel poled awnings, then again there are some light pole sets made of carbon fibre reinforced tubes. Being air or poled the weight choice is wide, weight saving is not the territory of one technology.

Where weight is a direct issue is with all the air ones I have seen the weight of the bladders or at least the rafter bladders is built into the canvass, so like for like canvass weight used, the air type version is that much heaving to feed through the rail.
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Air awnings. 2 weeks 3 days ago #473795

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Apologies to Mel but my Kampa Rallye Air is in the loft, been there four years now with one punctured leg and spares! It is very heavy to pull through the awning, suffers condensation even with the extra roof lining.
My carbon x Isabella poled unit has never ever let me down, is pretty easy to erect, I do it myself, and has withstood some very severe weather.
I too am a pole man :)
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Air awnings. 2 weeks 3 days ago #473801

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Not sure this will help, but we bought a Kampa Air Expert (I think that's right) to replace our Isabella Magnum - mainly because I have very poor co-ordination and didn't want to ding the caravan side any more when I lose control of a pole! Not having the heart to get rid of the Isabella (fantastic quality and has weathered some severe storms with no issues) it found a spot in the garage to retire to. Fast forward to this year - new van, GRP sides, less prone to "dings", we took the Isabella out for an airing - so that we could decide if we were going to keep it. Up it went no problem - so now, should we get rid of the Kampa? Next outing came with the Kampa in the boot. Yes it's heavy, but I use an awning pulley to get it in the rail (I've replaced the rubbish cord with decent para chord). So up it went, no problems - and no decision to get rid of either. In summary, we like them both - and are keeping them both.
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Air awnings. 2 weeks 3 days ago #473802

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Isabella Minor with carbon x poles for me. Just loaded it in the car actually and pretty light per bag to be honest. Easy to erect and with correct pegging and a suitable storm strap, faces all the weather I’ve encountered.
We did have a Kampa fiesta air pro, it’s was heavy, bulky and always looked scruffy, never could peg it down correctly.

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