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Audible Indicator Warning 9 years 8 months ago #283526

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I have just taken delivery of a new Mondeo Titanium X 2.2 tdi and I ordered a factory fitted detachable towbar as an option. On previous cars I have owned they have all had an additional indicator bleeper which activates when you are towing and in fact I have been told that this is a legal requirement. My new car however does not have this feature and there is no towing warning light on the dashboard either. I tried to get a seperate bleeper device fitted by a towbar specialist but they have said that they cannot touch the Ford wiring system and they have suggested that the computer in the car may need re programming to recognise when I am towing. I have mentioned this to several Ford dealerships and none of them have heard of this remedy so I am back to square one. I have been towing for several years I do like the audible reminder from the indicators. is there a simple and hopefully cheap fix to this problem or at least a technical link that I can refer a Ford dealership to?



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Audible Indicator Warning 9 years 8 months ago #283527

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Legal requirements state that there must be an audible or visual warning only if the indicators are not working. There is no requirement to inform if there are working properly.
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Audible Indicator Warning 9 years 8 months ago #283528

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Not too sure about that one. As far as I am aware it is the legal requirement that if you have a trailer you must have some indication that the lights are operating correctly.



Some cars do require the computer system to be adjusted to allow for a dashboard light to work. Have a look at the handbookmas it often shows a light, that may not be operating when solo. If so, then a dealer will indeed need to re programme the vehicle. My Volvo required this and was done when the tow bar was fitted.



If all fails and you are still unhappy then you can buy a stand alone audible device that can attach into the wiring loom in the boot.
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Audible Indicator Warning 9 years 8 months ago #283529

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Not too sure about that one. As far as I am aware it is the legal requirement that if you have a trailer you must have some indication that the lights are operating correctly.



Some cars do require the computer system to be adjusted to allow for a dashboard light to work. Have a look at the handbookmas it often shows a light, that may not be operating when solo. If so, then a dealer will indeed need to re programme the vehicle. My Volvo required this and was done when the tow bar was fitted.



If all fails and you are still unhappy then you can buy a stand alone audible device that can attach into the wiring loom in the boot.
Sorry Scotch Lad,

But all that will do is tell you that power is being fed to the circuit. It wont tell if the caravan is connected or that the lights are/not working.
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Audible Indicator Warning 9 years 8 months ago #283530

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Legal requirements state that there must be an audible or visual warning only if the indicators are not working. There is no requirement to inform if there are working properly.



hi lutz, i have read that before, however, like graham i prefer to know that they work with either the noise or as you say the visual indicator. takes me back to when i once had to go through a mine warfare course down in frimbley. we had a day using these old fashioned metal detectors and my head was buzzing with the constant high pitched whine it made, i asked an instructor if it would not be better if it was silent when sweepng and then made the noise when it detected something.

his answer was that all the time it whined, you knew it was working, if it was the other way around and for some reason it malfunctioned, then you wouldnt have known about it.

give me the noise anytime.
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Audible Indicator Warning 9 years 8 months ago #283531

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my new avensis is exactly the same it only has an audible warning when one of the indicators is not working toyota say that is how the wiring loom works you do get used to no beep or flashing so its no problem when towing
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Audible Indicator Warning 9 years 8 months ago #283532

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Like they say, "no news is good news".
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Audible Indicator Warning 9 years 8 months ago #283533

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Many thanks to everyone for such a speedy response. As my wifes dubious map reading skills are redundant following my investment in a Sat Nav, perhaps she could make a bleeping noise as we go round corners !
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Audible Indicator Warning 9 years 8 months ago #283534

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Graham,



I'm with most of the others - I like having a positive reminder that they are working. I'm glad to say that our Volvo has a light in the instrument binnacle to reassure me.



I have to say that were I in your position, I would definitely, at least once, take an indicator bulb out of the caravan and check whether there is actually a failure warning in the car.



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Audible Indicator Warning 9 years 8 months ago #283535

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Guys,



As I remember the contsruction and use regs, the car is required by law to have an beeper/light to be activated while the indicators are functioning on the trailer. The beeper is the usual option as it can easily be hidden in the boot area thus avoiding running long wires, so saving the fitters time.



To be honest I would be quite concerned if tow bar fitters are fighting shy of touching Ford's wiring. They usually know when they are inviting trouble for themselves. It sound to me like you could be in for reliability issues when the new lighting socket get's a bit old and corroded if the electrical system is so sensative.



Going back a few decades Swift had a good idea and a way around the noisy beeper situation. On my Dannette they had a repeater light fitted at the front side of the van which was easily seen in the car mirrors which confirmed that the caravan indicators were functioning. Obviously this did not confirm that the rear light worked but if you do what you should before you start the day towing, do a full lights check, then there should be enough confidence that lights work. From a pure safety point of view I realy fail to see why Swift dropped this additional light on future models, as it realy gave a clear signal to everyone thyat not only were you turning, but that you had a caravan on the back as well.



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